tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6528377935446865958.post4189595294236287691..comments2024-03-24T10:23:42.737-04:00Comments on Jim Fisher True Crime: The Dr. Robert Ferrante Poison Murder CaseJim Fisherhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03640110709472034191noreply@blogger.comBlogger50125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6528377935446865958.post-35783416285515186332021-12-17T14:21:33.532-05:002021-12-17T14:21:33.532-05:00Did Mooth'a mice also have cyanide in their sy...Did Mooth'a mice also have cyanide in their system? Enjoy prison for life idiot. Neirbhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07401433051842042080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6528377935446865958.post-77234221633219882532021-11-15T00:14:54.217-05:002021-11-15T00:14:54.217-05:00haha im studying this case and watching yall argue...haha im studying this case and watching yall argue 4 years back is kinda funnyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6528377935446865958.post-2511498424457664122020-03-12T17:17:45.318-04:002020-03-12T17:17:45.318-04:00this is absolute madness....this is absolute madness....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6528377935446865958.post-47292939518445586482020-02-02T06:35:06.301-05:002020-02-02T06:35:06.301-05:00I'm not sure what type of world believes a hus...I'm not sure what type of world believes a husband would want to kill his wife for wanting to have his child. Perhaps this is the most denigrating accusation a man could have made against him.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14110111294647696461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6528377935446865958.post-72585036351534861082019-09-06T16:37:30.837-04:002019-09-06T16:37:30.837-04:00It seems Professor Robert Ferrante will get a hear...It seems Professor Robert Ferrante will get a hearing. Hopefully, the court will learn its mistakes this time.Cazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01624528188716358428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6528377935446865958.post-85620972040649401962019-07-17T15:21:38.180-04:002019-07-17T15:21:38.180-04:00Autumn Klein was diagnosed with mitochondrial dise...Autumn Klein was diagnosed with mitochondrial disease while still alive.<br /><br />The symptoms Autumn experienced in the weeks before her death, and on the day of her collapse are all known presentations of mitochondrial disease. Stroke-like symptoms begin around age 40, as the mitochondrial count per cell goes down. First symptoms of adult-onset appear to be migraine and visual auras, followed by fainting. <br /><br />The organs most profoundly affected by mitochondrial dysfunction are the ones that need the most energy: Brain, heart, muscle. Lactic acidosis is a known symptom of mitochondrial dysfunction.<br /><br />Here is the symptom list on the official site of the mitochondrial disease foundation. https://www.umdf.org/what-is-mitochondrial-disease/possible-symptoms/<br /><br />See also these case reports:<br />https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6402098/ <br />https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6511931/ <br />https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27716753 <br />https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5215404/ <br />https://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/condition/mitochondrial-encephalomyopathy-lactic-acidosis-and-stroke-like-episodes <br /><br />A Harvard professor called Varmsi Mootha, has shown that when high oxygen was administered to mice engineered to express mitochondrial disease phenotypes, it killed them. Instead, mice with mitochondrial dysfunction need low oxygen conditions to thrive. Oxygen does not get converted to ATP, so toxic levels of oxygen build up in the brain. Autumn Klein was treated with high oxygen conditions, per normal post-heart attack management. Maybe that is what actually killed her brain. <br /><br />Here are the references that Vamsi Mootha published, on hypoxia as a treatment for mitochondrial dysfunction:<br />1 - https://science.sciencemag.org/content/352/6281/54.long<br />2 - https://www.cell.com/cell-reports/pdf/S2211-1247(19)30468-1.pdf<br />See also a video of him presenting- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw6hbf7CKvIAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6528377935446865958.post-47602853309097481612018-08-07T14:37:41.402-04:002018-08-07T14:37:41.402-04:00There is a major error propagating on the internet...There is a major error propagating on the internet and in the media. It concerns the timing of the blood sample sent for cyanide testing. According to the trial transcript, the sample sent to Quest was drawn at 14:55, a full 15.5 hrs after supposed consumption. Your report in this article is wrong. Please fix it. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6528377935446865958.post-80491324461667247502018-08-01T10:05:17.782-04:002018-08-01T10:05:17.782-04:00Autumn Klein is sometimes described as vibrant and...Autumn Klein is sometimes described as vibrant and healthy. She may have had a bright personality, but she was far from healthy. Autumn Klein had a mitochondrial dysfunction, a thyroid problem, she was infertile, suffered from adult acne and migraines. On the day she fell ill, she complained of migraines and auras. And she was under weight her entire life. All of these are side effects of anorexia nervosa.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6528377935446865958.post-58061541808116217312018-07-19T16:00:03.286-04:002018-07-19T16:00:03.286-04:00At trial, one of the State's 'experts'...At trial, one of the State's 'experts' said everything except cyanide poisoning had been ruled out. That is either an incredibly lazy person, or someone who never studied math at high school. It is impossible to rule out everything, especially when you do not even go looking. For example, note how Autumn Klein's death is an exact match to the case studies described here: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3292410/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6528377935446865958.post-41121502827418660642018-06-17T20:54:20.643-04:002018-06-17T20:54:20.643-04:00Les Edinboro of Quest perjured himself when we tol...Les Edinboro of Quest perjured himself when we told the court the test was specific. He should know better. I can't believe it was incompetence. It was perjury. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6528377935446865958.post-78471597886239074772018-05-26T13:50:40.073-04:002018-05-26T13:50:40.073-04:00In addition to Quest Diagnostics, the other party ...In addition to Quest Diagnostics, the other party that deserves blame for this wrongful conviction is Karl Williams, Medical Examiner. He should have known the half-life and symptoms were completely wrong for cyanide. I accuse him of negligence and hope he loses his job when Ferrante is exonerated.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6528377935446865958.post-19093395762666200652018-04-26T22:17:23.861-04:002018-04-26T22:17:23.861-04:00If she had cyanide in her system, the blood would ...If she had cyanide in her system, the blood would not be bright red. It would be cyan.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6528377935446865958.post-77171582471337243512018-04-24T19:30:45.582-04:002018-04-24T19:30:45.582-04:00I attended the trial. Of interest was the testimo...I attended the trial. Of interest was the testimony of a young physician who was the receiving resident in the trauma bay that night. He related that he thought he had entered an artery instead of an intended central vein because the blood was bright red. He had not erred. Ever see a CO suicide victim? Or a cyanide victim? Ferrante, as demonstrated by his internet searches, was concerned about dialysis and its ability to flush out cyanide. He redosed her later in the ICU with the final lethal amount of cyanide, much more than the original small dose.<br />She had coded several times in the trauma bay and was placed on vasopressors, renal dialysis and ECMO, hardly a “successful” resuscitation.Kishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16607774324922443052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6528377935446865958.post-41127416276007995542018-04-23T21:44:35.434-04:002018-04-23T21:44:35.434-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Kishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16607774324922443052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6528377935446865958.post-68894875074465096222018-04-23T21:41:20.237-04:002018-04-23T21:41:20.237-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Kishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16607774324922443052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6528377935446865958.post-46158889238802274242018-03-26T15:28:56.707-04:002018-03-26T15:28:56.707-04:00He followed his wife's specified wishes for he...He followed his wife's specified wishes for her body: for organs to be harvested ASAP and the remains cremated. Not his choice, hers. He was respecting her wishes. btw- no cyanide suicide. No cyanide at all. The symptoms are completely wrong. The reading by Quest was a false positive.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6528377935446865958.post-14355617247276457752018-03-23T15:20:48.217-04:002018-03-23T15:20:48.217-04:00He does a google search on Cyanide Potassium, orde...He does a google search on Cyanide Potassium, orders it ostensively for a research project. Shortly thereafter, his wife who is a physician, so completely cognizant of the the horrendous death suffered by cyanide poisoning and is a mother with a much loved young child, choses to commit suicide by using this very poison because she is distraught about not being able to get pregnant again. Then add ancillary evidence, like that the marriage was troubled and that she had told her cousin that she wanted to leave the marriage. Also the fact that Ferrante had his wife's body immediately cremated after her death, refusing and autopsy even though the circumstances of her death were puzzling and unexplainable...not exactly the type of behaviour expected from a grieving husband, especially one who is a facts driven scientist. Given the facts and circumstances here, it's completely unsurprising that Ferrante was found guilty of his wife's murder.Elaina Barrettnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6528377935446865958.post-68160969014394566112018-02-25T19:46:30.994-05:002018-02-25T19:46:30.994-05:00I realized something else. Cyanide causes system-...I realized something else. Cyanide causes system-wide hypoxia, which makes resuscitation impossible. Yet Autumn Klein was successfully revived after collapse. This would be the first ever case of successful resuscitation from cyanide poisoning without antidote. Or, another piece of evidence that cyanide poisoning never occurred. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6528377935446865958.post-22539637827073837132018-02-14T09:53:08.190-05:002018-02-14T09:53:08.190-05:00She died of anorexia and the long-term metabolic e...She died of anorexia and the long-term metabolic effects of Accutane (retinoic acid). Look it up. The symptoms are a perfect fit to Autumn Klein's death.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6528377935446865958.post-8718810167357763572018-02-13T07:42:42.641-05:002018-02-13T07:42:42.641-05:00Autumn Klein never exhibited symptoms of cyanide p...Autumn Klein never exhibited symptoms of cyanide poisoning, the pharmacology is completely inconsistent with cyanide and the test is flawed. Conclusion: no crime occurred.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6528377935446865958.post-38229287688024491152018-02-13T07:40:28.288-05:002018-02-13T07:40:28.288-05:00So you agree the test that measured cyanide was fl...So you agree the test that measured cyanide was flawed, and you agree that the patient never exhibited signs of cyanide poisoning, yet you believe Ferrante guilty of cyanide poisoning because some cyanide is missing. I recall the US armed forces have lost a few nuclear bombs, so your logic would make them guilty of nuclear war, even though no evidence of rogue nuclear blasts exist. Right? Same logic! You want an explanation for missing cyanide? Here are two perfectly reasonable explanations: Since experiments were planned, one of the lab members took some to make a stock solution. Or, considering cyanide is highly hygroscopic, and the batch was 97% pure, that makes 250g*3% = ~8g of water. When the prosecutors weighed the bottle, they heated it (of course, since this is standard practice), and that drove off the water, leaving the bottle 8g short. Face it, you helped railroad an innocent man.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6528377935446865958.post-46288264108214265642018-02-09T17:52:29.923-05:002018-02-09T17:52:29.923-05:00What person who walks in the door at midnight afte...What person who walks in the door at midnight after working a 15 hr day would drink an energy drink, rather than a glass of wine or shot of hard liquor, or a warm glass of milk that would lull them to sleep? Especially if she had a headache. She had to be susceptible to his manipulation at that point in time and drank the mixture he presented to her, having put the idea in her head via text earlier in the day and emphasizing it when she came in, bec afterall, why would he still be awake (and at his age) after presumably caring for an energetic youngster? He took advantage of her having mentioned a mild headache in her text later as well when he told the dispatcher that he thought she was stroking out. <br />Next, anyone who's worked in a chem/research lab knows you never taste chemicals used in the lab; it's unethical as well as dangerous. Yet, on the 15th, he's making a show of measuring out creatinine in the lab so others see him, and drinks it, "proving" nothing was wrong with it-he didn't suffer adverse effects. He repeats the show in the lab the next day. On the third day, he lures other researchers into it by having them open a brand new sealed container of creatinine and measure it out for him. "Proof" that the creatinine he provided for his wife was "safe", as he had a witness. Manipulation. (Furthermore, He proved that he was unethical by doing all this with the lab's creatinine). <br />He messed up not having the body buried rather than cremated, though he thought at the time it was better to destroy evidence. If buried, he might've stood a chance to prove that her tissues weren't full of cyanide metabolites and such through exhumation and testing. Alas, he burned himself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6528377935446865958.post-48660583781675212102018-02-09T15:23:44.099-05:002018-02-09T15:23:44.099-05:00Science won't matter when the case is reviewed...Science won't matter when the case is reviewed by humanity-degreed lawyers! Or, by laymen "peers" who sit on juries. Neither understand science to the degree necessary to judge this case's science. What matters is the hubris of the defendant now convict who chose to waive his right to go on the stand. He bought the poison merely days before her murder, what research experiments did he perform with that missing 8.3 grams of cyanide? As an RN, former chemist and lab researcher, who's siblings are in law, I don't believe him. My senior thesis was analytical chemistry on indicators used in test kits that change colors caused by metal atoms reacting ( to put it simply). I can understand false positives and so on. But a law of nature is that matter doesn't just disappear, and any layman can understand that. Apparently, he couldn't provide a reasonable explanation of where that cyanide went, except in Autumn Klein's system. IMOAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6528377935446865958.post-30814770798087637982018-01-25T09:00:04.867-05:002018-01-25T09:00:04.867-05:00....where malondialdehyde is a product of lipid pe.......where malondialdehyde is a product of lipid peroxidation, a response to metabolic disorders under low oxygen, as might occur when an anorexic has a heart attack and is repurfused.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6528377935446865958.post-493209767499824422018-01-22T07:11:54.513-05:002018-01-22T07:11:54.513-05:00Here are chemistry details of the false positive. ...Here are chemistry details of the false positive. <br /> Compare the red-colored products of this cyanide reaction used by Quest Diagnostics: https://openi.nlm.nih.gov/detailedresult.php?img=PMC3475106_1476-511X-11-74-4&req=4 <br />.....to this one, for a TBARS assay (see 'Product Details' tab for the chemistry) https://www.cellbiolabs.com/tbars-assay <br /><br />Note how the product species are almost exactly the same! This means malondialdehyde will cause a false positive for cyanide in this assay.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com